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  Memories from the Edge

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.

  can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.

  i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.

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  Lost in the fog

  WillYouDFme, your comment is identical to my own experiences. It is hard to stop after being used to public speaking at elders schools, assemblies etc. But comes the realisation that we were only regurgitating what we were told to use, even where it made no logical sense. Like the men of old looking to the heavenly kingdom but twisting the scripture to say that it was an earthly kingdom because they wouldn't be in heaven. I couldn't believe that.

  And Jesus as Michael the archangel never made sense in light of Hebrews 1.

  The troubles in our congregation made me want to run away before I knocked somebody's teeth in. I still feel hurt over the nasty way I was treated by men that I had helped along in the truth. But I have freedom of choice now to do what I want to do not looking over my shoulder in case I was being watched or recorded.

  Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you all.
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  Facebook evangelising

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2226652490738312&set=a.106546726082243&type=3&theater this was posted on fb by a witness who l am " friends " with .

  she has since posted another jw propaganda piece .

  these look like they are from the wt and are official evangelising tools .

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  Lost in the fog

  The WT organisation has recently said that nothing from their literature or from the jw(dot) org website is to be shared online especially not on social media sites. They claim that it infringes the copyright of their material.

  So it probably means that whoever is posting this online wants to preach to the world, but at the same time is being disobedient to the GB.

  ws18 August p. 30 "Questions From Readers, Why is no-one allowed to post publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses on other websites or on social media?"

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  You can find a link to the Terms of Use at the bottom of the home page on jw.org. These rules apply to everything that is available on our websites.
  
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  Abuse Survivor's $4M Judgment Against Jehovah's Witness Umbrella Organization Upheld by Court 12/10/18

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2018/12/10/court-upholds-abuse-survivors-4m-judgement-against-jehovahs-witness-umbrella-organization-389-52222/?slreturn=20181111101406.

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  Lost in the fog

  This article gives the most information.

  https://www.leagle.com/decision/incaco20181210020
  
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  The Baptist Churches Turn.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it's the turn of the american baptist churches to come under scrutiny now.

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  https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/star-telegram-uncovers-hundreds-of-sexual-abuse-cases-in-fundamentalist-baptist-churches/.

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  Lost in the fog

  It's the turn of the American Baptist Churches to come under scrutiny now.

  https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/star-telegram-uncovers-hundreds-of-sexual-abuse-cases-in-fundamentalist-baptist-churches/
  
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  How would you reason with a JW that it is okay to say Good Luck?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any takers?.

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  Lost in the fog

  I can recall one oldie who would have taken you to task for using the word Fantastic in your talk.

  Because fantastic derived from Fantasy, and if something was a fantasy it didn't exist. So you couldn't say "I hope our pioneers will have a fantastic time at the school."

  Fantastic! Take that brother into the back room and have him shot....
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  Controlled

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to a friend who is an elder in a congregation near belfast city over in northern ireland.

  he was telling me that several of the sisters wanted to put fresh flowers in the hall on a weekly basis just to pretty the place up.

  he said "sure, why not, it's a great idea, and the congregation will reimburse the costs as long as they aren't too expensive.

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  Lost in the fog

  I was talking to a friend who is an elder in a congregation near Belfast City over in Northern Ireland.

  He was telling me that several of the sisters wanted to put fresh flowers in the hall on a weekly basis just to pretty the place up. He said "sure, why not, it's a great idea, and the congregation will reimburse the costs as long as they aren't too expensive."

  But then there was (his words) "a bloody big row" because the coordinating elder said that the LDC (local design committee) members did not approve of flowers inside a Kingdom Hall. End of story!

  So apparently every congregation has to now obey the whim of each LDC if they want to stay approved. Personal choices are FORBIDDEN.

  He is PIMI but for the 1st time ever I heard him say "what the hell is this rubbish, it is becoming more like a dictatorial cult every flipping day! Over what, a couple of bunches of pretty flowers."

  I hope this crack might soon widen and he will begin to see the light. Please pray that he does.
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  Did anyone put off having children because of wt bs?

  by I Faded Twice in

  1. social
  2. family

  just curious if anyone put off having kids because the end was so close.

  or because of you're "ministry" or lack of suitable mates..

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  Lost in the fog

  Sort of. I didn't meet my wife until we both were well past the bloom of youth. Me being busy as an elder, she being busy pioneering. We wish we had met 20 years earlier and had a family, but we did not. But the number of friends who kept saying "in the new world you can" didn't take the regret away.
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  Faders Needing a Great One Liner

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so our family fade is well under way.

  we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".

  we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.

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  Lost in the fog

  How about "the jw(dot)org website has so much information to try and absorb, the way we are inundated with new videos daily - - that we just DON'T have the time any more to come to meetings."
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  If Angels in the Bible are of neuter gender ? Then why are they always depicted as males by description and name ? And never a female ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in all of the art i`ve seen in christendom, angels always have the form of a male, and in the bible those that are named always have a male name such as michael ,gabriel , etc, .

  nowhere in the art world that i have seen do angels have the female form, and in the bible they don`t have female names.. so if the angels are neither male or female why then are they depicted as males with male names ?and not female also ?.

  the watchtower illustrators also follow this line .when they illustrate an angel it is always in the form of a male and never a female form.. the anointed who make up the 144000 comprise of male and females right ?

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  In the art of the Pre-Raphaelite painters most of their angels were portrayed as female.
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  The clown factory at Warwick

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it just amazes me how the clown factory at the borgs basilica in warwick could produce 8 clown popes that act like self-licking ice cream cones and the jdubs take them so seriously.

  if the popes said that they were going to have a bible signing session at a king dumb hall 8 hours away that so many jdubs would make the trip the town would be swamped with traffic.. you know what is truly sad is when during jdub public prayers, the governing body gets more praise than the head of the congregation.

  all jesus gets is the final "in jesus name.".

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  Lost in the fog

  Before the GB started their TV self-agrandizement programme we didn't have any idea as to who they were or what they looked like.

  I recall one brown noser circuit overseer who said from the circuit assembly platform that publishers did not need to know who the GB were, all they had to do was to obey them!

  That's when several people in the row behind where we were sitting said loudly "no wonder people think that this is a cult."

  The penny didn't drop with me until much later. Cult. Cult. Cult. Cult.